Who Said Prophets Confessed Jesus into Existence?

 

 

By Gail Fischbein

 

 

In his book Bleeding Hearts and Propaganda: the Fall of Reason in the Church James R. Spencer says, "One of the most grievous propaganda tactics is the sin of the out-of-context quo­tation. When you quote someone out of context, you can make words they said mean something they never meant at all. People can use such statements to cruelly misrepresent what a person really believes." [1]

 

There are other propaganda tactics that can make it appear that a person said something he or she did not say, or did not mean. In his online essay, Seven Tactics of The Heresy Hunters, Troy J. Edwards discusses them, and says that after quoting a person out of context, a possible next step "is to make a false implication concerning what the individual teaches. The interpretation of a statement by the Heresy Hunter is usually never what the writer/preacher originally meant to con­vey." [2] One way this can be done is through the paraphrased quote.

 

A clear example of these tactics can be found in the alleged quote below attributed to Kenneth Copeland. The author not only lifted something he said out of context, thus giving his statement a dif­ferent meaning, but also paraphrased it in such a way that it says the opposite of what Kenneth Copeland actually said.

 

Below is the quote, posted on a Christian Message board, and traced back to the Internet:

 

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This is a synopsis of statements made by the major Word Faith teachers; after each statement, you will find the source material listed so that you can read or hear the exact quote for yourself. It has been my intent to paraphrase these teachers as exactly as possible for the purpose of allow­ing you, the reader, to get an overview, or the 'big picture' if you will of the Word Faith movement.

 

KENNETH COPELAND

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Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies. (The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10) [3] 

[Emphasis added]

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Here is the Full text of what Copeland said in The Power of the Tongue, pages 8-10:

 

the earth. He [Satan] became man's god, or as 2 Corinthians 4:4 calls him, the god of this world. Though he has no creative power of his own, Satan uses the creative power in man's words to manipulate the circumstances of this world. Everything he produces is only the counterfeit of the real. He takes what God has already created and perverts it to his own use. James 3:6 tells us that the tongue is set on fire of hell. Satan desires the use of men's tongues. Tongues of crea­tures in the God class are much more powerful.  Man was created in God's image.

 

GOD'S WORD SENT FORTH

 

God places a high priority on words. He has never done anything without saying it first, as we have seen from chapter one of Genesis. God's faith-filled Word was the initial force in the uni­verse. At creation, God set into motion what I call the law of Genesis, dictating that every living thing would produce after its own kind. God's plan for man was to live eternally, producing a race that would be in close fellowship and communion with Him; but once Adam disobeyed God, that plan was altered. The authority that had been delegated to a man was suddenly in the hands of Satan. At that point, God was forced back to the original source -- His Word. He couldn't make another man from the dust of the earth because the ground was cursed. He had to revert back to speaking His Word, filled with faith.

 

Once [the Abrahamic] covenant was established, God began to release His Word into the earth. He began to paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His Word in the earth. The only avenue God had to get His words into the earth was through men. As He would speak life-filled words in relation to His covenant with Abraham, His prophets would repeat those words in the earth.

 

Immediately God began to search for a man who would teach his children and live uprightly be­fore Him. Finally he found that man, Abram. He made a covenant with Abram -- a covenant that was to last forever. As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee. . . And I will make thee exceed­ingly fruitful . . . And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee (Gen. 17:4,6,7).

 

Once that covenant was established, God began to release His Word into the earth. He began to paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His Word in the earth. The only avenue God had to get His words into the earth was through men. As He would speak life-filled words in relation to His covenant with Abraham, His prophets would repeat those words in the earth. It was a very tedious and difficult process since the Old Testament prophets were not born-again men. Because they lived under the Abrahamic Covenant, they were able to receive instruction from God and righteousness was imputed, or counted, unto them (Rom. 4:22).

 

So before Jesus came into the earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again. How many times did He say the Messiah was coming? It was prophesied over hundreds, even thou­sands of years. He kept saying, "He is coming. He is coming." The circumstances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it; but He just kept saying it. He would not be moved by what He saw. Once the Word was received into the earth by a man, it was here to stay. In Isaiah 55:11, God said, “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” God would not relent. Through the mouths of his prophets, He kept send­ing His Word and sending His Word.

 

Finally the great moment came when that Word was brought forth in human form: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth (John 1:14). The Word, which existed before the foundations of the earth, lived for 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus. He ministered for three years as a prophet under the Abrahamic Covenant; then He gave Himself to be the last sacrifice of the Old Covenant. He became the sacrificial lamb, offered upon the altar of the cross for one reason: to defeat Satan.

 

Jesus was the last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), and He passed the test that the first Adam failed. [4]

 

-Kenneth Copeland. The Power of the Tongue (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1980), pp. 8-10.

[Some emphasis added.]

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Here again is the "paraphrased" quote attributed to Kenneth Copeland:

 

Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies. (The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)  [5]  [Emphasis added.]

 

As you can see from his actual words above, Kenneth Copeland did not say that Jesus existed "only" as an image in the heart of God. He said that as God “began to release His Word into the earth, He began to paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His Word in the earth.” We know that the picture God painted is found in the suffering servant and messianic prophecies of the Old Testament.

 

The heresy hunter changed Copeland's statement that God "began to paint a picture of a Re­deemer" to say, "Jesus existed as an image in the heart of God." Then he lifted this statement out of context and added the world "only" to make the quote say, "Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God," thus creating the totally false implication that Copeland denies the deity and pre-existence of Jesus. What the writer of this alleged quote left behind when he lifted it out of context was that Copeland also said, "The Word, which existed before the foundations of the earth, lived for 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus." Quoting Copeland as saying Jesus existed "only" as an image in the heart of God seems clearly to be a deliberate deception.

 

Continuing our analysis of the quote, Copeland didn't say anything resembling "until such time as the prophets could positively confessed Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies."  Confession, posi­tive or otherwise, wasn't even mentioned by Copeland. There is a significant difference between people making positive confessions and God prophesying the coming of the Messiah through His prophets, which is what Copeland said happened. In prophesying events to come, God initiates the process by speaking His words through men and they come to pass. In positive confession, a human being initiates the process by speaking God's Word as found in the Bible concerning a particular promise, repeating it to get it into their heart, from which he or she speaks it forth in faith believing it will come to pass.

 

Copeland spoke of God's role in bringing the Messiah into the world by saying, “In Isaiah 55:11, God said: ‘So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it’." Copeland also said that through the mouths of His prophets, God kept sending His Word and sending His Word. However, he said nothing about the prophets creating anyone (as some claim he said) or bringing anyone into existence. Instead he said, "Finally the great moment came when the Word was brought forth in human form." Then, without even knowing he'd be accused of it, Copeland refuted the notion that prophets created Jesus by declaring that Jesus was begotten, Fathered by God: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth" (John 1:14).

 

Wrapping up our phrase by phrase analysis of the quote, Copeland said nothing about constant prophecies.  He said that God kept sending His Word over a period of hundreds, even thousands of years. Some say there were about 300 prophecies concerning the first coming of Jesus, given over a period of about 3600 years (from Genesis 3:15 through Malachi). That would be an aver­age of one prophecy every 12 years - hardly what you'd call "constant prophecies". Copeland said the prophets repeated the prophecies, but not constantly. Some of the prophecies were passed down through oral tradition and later written into the scriptures. They were read from time to time in the synagogues, but again, not constantly, as the author of this quote says.

 

Conclusion

 

So what do we have here? We have some orthodox Christian history written by Kenneth Cope­land to show that God prophesied - spoke His Words through men to make the incarnation of Jesus a reality. Copeland wrote that God began to release His Word into the earth, painting a picture (giving the details) of a Re­deemer who would come and be the manifestation of His Word in the earth. He said God spoke through His prophets to get His Word into the earth, and quotes God as saying, "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." (Isaiah 55:11) This clearly shows that Copeland believes it was God, not the prophets, who brought Jesus into the earth.

 

Copeland ends by saying, “Finally the great moment came when that Word was brought forth in human form: the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:14). The Word, which existed before the foundations of the earth, lived for 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus. He ministered for three years as a prophet under the Abrahamic Covenant; then He gave Himself to be the last sacrifice of the Old Covenant. He became the sacrificial lamb, offered upon the altar of the cross for one reason: to defeat Satan. Jesus was the last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), and He passed the test that the first Adam failed.”

 

What is unorthodox about that? This is salvation history that virtually every Christian knows about and understands to some degree. Copeland wrote it to show the role that God's words, which he believes the Bible teaches are powerful, played in the process. We don't have to agree with his emphasis or choice of words, but there's nothing false or unchristian about what he said, and no reason for anyone to attack or vilify him. Only what the heresy hunter wrote is false and heretical.

 

You need to realize, when reading alleged and especially "paraphrased" quotes, that until you've read or heard the original material in context, and until you know what the writer/speaker meant to convey, you may not be reading or hearing a genuine quote but at something someone else has presented in a way that may not be fair, objective or honest. Noah Webster defined paraphrase as: "An explanation of some text or passage in a book, in a more clear and ample manner than is expressed in the words of the author. In a paraphrase, the author's words are not so strictly followed as his sense, to unfold the sense of an author with more clearness and particularity than it is expressed in his own words. To interpret or explain amply." [6] [Emphasis added.] The author of this quote did quite the opposite. This is not a true or helpful paraphrase, but a false one that altered Copeland’s meaning and is causing distress and dissention in the church.

 

Noah Webster defined synopsis as "a general view, or a collection of things or parts so arranged as to exhibit the whole or the principal parts in a general view." [7] Merriam-Webster defines it as "a condensed statement or outline (as of a narrative or treatise): ABSTRACT." [8]  Although this quote was offered as "a synopsis of statements made by the major Word Faith teachers..." (and para­phrased "as exactly as possible”) to allow “you, the reader, to get an overview, or the 'big picture' …of the Word Faith movement," it did just the opposite.

 

We have here an overlay of meaning, not what Copeland said or meant, but what someone added that changed what Copeland said, and like curved mirrors in an amusement park, gives a very distorted view of reality, and a very false caricature of what Copeland actually said. Heresy hunters set themselves up as judges, but when they overlay acceptable teaching with false and heretical quotes, they are like judges in a cooking competition who pour acid into a contestant’s cake batter, then sound an alarm that the cake is poison. No judge is supposed to alter what he’s judging, be it food for one’s soul, or food for the table.

 

Look at the confusion caused by this deliberately misleading quote!!

 

Below are quotes of additional charges (underlined) made by some web sites displaying the quote we've been discussing. It seems that when people came across this quote, they didn't check to see what Copeland said in The Power of the Tongue, even though they posted a reference to it on their web sites. Because of this, they were apparently deceived by material taken out of context and rewritten to make it appear that Copeland said the things in the quote.

 

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1. ...Copeland has taught some weird teachings: “Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.” (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10). [9] [underline added]

 

REPLY: Only the author of this false quote is responsible for this weird teaching.

 

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2. Copeland is denying God came in the flesh

 

“Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.” (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)

 

REPLY: Copeland actually said, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..."

 

To deny Jesus’ preexistence means he could not be the creator. Then if he needs to be con-fessed by their words then men created Jesus. [10]

 

REPLY: Instead of denying Jesus' preexistence, Copeland said, "The Word, which existed before the foun­dations of the earth, lived for 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus." He said that God prophesied the coming Messiah through His prophets. He did not say that Jesus needed to be confessed by prophets. Instead he said Jesus was begotten of the Father. 

 

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3. Jesus Did Not Exist Before He Was Confessed Into Existence

 

"Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.  (The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)"  [11]

 

REPLY: Copeland said The Word [Jesus] existed before the foundations of the earth. He said that God spoke His Word again and again through the mouths of His prophets and finally the great mo­ment came when that Word was brought forth in human form, the only begotten of the Father. He never said nor implied that Jesus was confessed into existence. What he said is in agreement with the Bible: for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. (2 Peter 1:21 NASB)

 

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4. "Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies." (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)

 

We find that Jesus is a created being that did not pre-exist according to Copeland but had to be made, heres how he explains the virgin conception. [12]

 

REPLY: Nowhere did Copeland say that Jesus is a created being, nor did he say that Jesus was made. Instead he said that Jesus existed before the foundations of the earth. About the virgin concep­tion, Kenneth said that Jesus was the only begotten of the Father.

Copeland states "So before Jesus came to the earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again. How many times did He say the Messiah was coming It was prophesied over hun­dreds, even thousands, of years. He kept saying, 'He is coming. He is 'coming the circumstances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it; but He just kept saying it. He would not be moved by what He saw… God would not relent." (the power of the tongue 9-10) So here God spoke the universe into existence (which the bible attributes to Jesus) but to make him a human it took a long time of confession. [13]

 

REPLY: The Bible does say, speaking of Christ: “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:”  (Colossians 1:16 KJV) So when Genesis 1:1 says, "In the begin­ning God created the heaven and the earth," it must also be speaking of Jesus, Who is God and Creator. Copeland didn’t comment on why 4000 years of human history passed before the incarnation of Jesus became a reality, nor did he even mention confession as having anything to do with it. Someone made a false implication when they rewrote what Copeland said to convey the opposite of what he said and meant. 

 

So Jesus is only a word spoken, this is exactly like what Oneness Pentecostals believe which means he was not a person, and is not God. Clearly to say this is not glorifying him but demoting him to be like anyone else [14]

 

REPLY: Kenneth Copeland did not say or imply any of this. Instead he said, “The Word, which existed before the foundations of the earth, was brought forth in human formlived for 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus.” If He pre-existed and was born as a man, as Copeland said, He’s not just a word spoken, and He is a person – as the pre-existing Word and as a man.

 

To be fair Kenneth Copeland has… on occasion taught correctly that Jesus "...was and is God manifested in the flesh." K. Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory, September 1991, p.3.)  [15]

 

REPLY: Copeland does teach that Jesus is Lord and God. He wrote, “the Word made flesh and dwelt among us, but that we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth” (John 1:14). A person who denies Jesus is God doesn’t say that about Him.

 

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5. "Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies." (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)

 

So Jesus did not exist prior to the prophets words manifesting him. how did he come to be? By the words of their mouths, glory be to man! [16]

 

REPLY: Copeland said that the Word (Jesus) existed before the foundations of the earth. He didn't come to be. He always was. The quote on which this statement is based is a fabrication. 

 

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6. God Cannot Act on the Earth

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Ken Copeland: Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the proph­ets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their prophecies. (The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)  [17]

 

REPLY: In the text we’re discussing, Copeland did not say that God cannot act in the earth. He said, “The authority that had been delegated to a man was suddenly in the hands of Satan.” Both Jesus and the apostle Paul acknowledged that. (John 12:31; John 14:30; 1 Cor. 2:8; 2 Cor. 4:4).

“At that point, God was forced back to the original source -- His Word. He couldn't make another man from the dust of the earth because the ground was cursed.” God does seem to act primarily through men and women (as when He responds to prayer, for example). At times He also acts based on what mankind had done on the earth, as in the Flood (Gen. 5:11-13; 17, 18) and the confusion of languages (Gen. 11:9). He was acting to bring Jesus into the world from His prophecy in Gen. 3:15 to Mary’s conception some 4000 years later (Luke 1:35).

 

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7. How much false doctrine is too much?

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Below I have some quotes from some popular 'Bible' teachers of today. I want to say right up front that I believe most of these quotes are blasphemy, but I think it is important to show what these people are saying:

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Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.   [18]

 

REPLY: You may not agree with what Copeland wrote but there is no heresy or blasphemy here. The quote you refer to doesn’t even appear in Copeland’s book The Power of the Tongue.

 

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8. “these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up” – can anyone find biblical justifi­cation for the blasphemous teachings of Copeland and Hagin….? read what they say!

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Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies. (The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10)  [19]

 

REPLY: I wish you would read what they say, and be fair minded enough to determine what they meant to convey.  Then you’d discover that it’s the alleged and “paraphrased” quotes that are made up and taken out of context that exploit their readers by deceiving them into believing that is what men like Copeland teach, when in fact they do not.

 

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9. Copeland, Kenneth & Gloria: Heretical teachers who... Teach a false Christ eg: Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies. (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10).  [20]

 

REPLY: Hopefully you can see now that the alleged quote is simply untrue, and that in pages 8-10 of The Power of the Tongue Copeland teaches a true Christ, the Word, who was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:14). This Christ, the Word, existed before the foundations of the earth. He lived for 33 years on earth as a man. His name was Jesus. He ministered for three years as a prophet under the Abrahamic Covenant; then He gave Himself to be the last sacrifice of the Old Covenant. He became the sacrificial lamb, offered upon the altar of the cross...

 

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10. The Abrahamic Covenant and Jesus Christ

 

Kenneth Copeland teaches that since God could no longer legally operate in the physical realm, He was unable to redeem mankind Himself. Beginning with Abram, He therefore sought out men who would willingly cooperate with Him and give Him access back into the earth by speaking "faith-filled words." Jesus Christ, the final product of the covenant between Abram (Abraham) and God, was eventually confessed into existence as the words of God made flesh: [21]

 

REPLY: With all due respect, Copeland did not say that God could no longer legally operate in the physical realm. He did say that God spoke faith-filled, life-filled words through men. He also did not say that Jesus Christ was the final product of the covenant between Abram (Abraham) and God, was eventually confessed into existence. Here is what he said that you quoted:

 

God's faith-filled Word was the original force in the universe.... He began to paint a picture of a redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His Word in the earth. The only avenue God had to get His words in the earth was through men. As He would speak life-filled words in relation to His covenant with Abraham, His prophets would repeat those words in the earth.

So before Jesus came to earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again. How many times did He say the Messiah was coming? It was prophesied over hundreds, even thousands, of years. He kept saying, "He is coming. He is coming." The circumstances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it; but He just kept saying it.

Finally, the great moment came when the Word was brought forth in human flesh.... The Word, which existed [as a force] before the foundation of the earth, lived 33 years as a man. His name was Jesus.  [22]

 

Nowhere in the Bible can the doctrine be found that Jesus was the words of the covenant be-tween God and Abraham manifested into a man. Instead, by giving Christ the title of "the Word of God," the Apostle John was merely employing the terminology of the Gnostics of his day in order to refute their belief that the logos, the revealer of the Deity, could not have become flesh. Jesus did not exist as an "image in the heart of God" which was confessed and subsequently created like the universe, as Copeland claims, for He eternally co-existed with the Father as a Member of the Trinity (John 8:58; Phillipians 2:5-8). [23]

 

REPLY: You’re right. Nowhere in the Bible is the doctrine that Jesus was the words of the covenant between God and Abraham manifested into a man. Copeland did not say that He was. The phrase “[as a force]” is not in the text we’re discussing.  I agree that Jesus did not exist as an "image in the heart of God" which was confessed and subsequently created like the universe. Copeland did not claim that He was. I agree that Jesus eternally co-existed with the Father as a Member of the Trinity, as you said. My point is that it’s not Copeland who is saying these things to which you rightfully object. As described above, the heresy hunter who wrote the alleged and rewritten quote said those false and misleading things.

 

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What Christianity in Crisis says about this alleged quote:

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Christianity in Crisis

Part 1 - Turning the Truth Into Mythology

 

God's plan was to make Abraham the father of all nations and to produce from his seed another Adam who would regain the turf lost by the first Adam.

 

In keeping with His Word, God made Abraham very, very wealthy. Then, once again, He pro­ceeded to visualize. Through God's mind raced images of a brand-new Adam -- a man would one day restore Him to His rightful place in the universe and who would forever banish his archrival, Satan, from the kingdom.

 

And then it happened! One day the image of this Savior coalesced in God's mind. Without hesitation, God began speaking into existence the picture of the Redeemer He had painted on the canvas of His consciousness. (30) Excitedly, God positively confessed, "The Messiah is coming, the Messiah is coming!" (31)  [24]

 

REPLY: This is not what Copeland said. In my opinion the above quote so trivializes what actually happened that to me it reads like a cheap soap opera. Here in the Bible is what God actually promised Abraham, for example, in Genesis 17:1-10 NASB:

 

Abraham and the Covenant of Circumcision


1   Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him,
    "I am God Almighty;
    Walk before Me, and be blameless.

2   "I will establish My covenant between Me and you,
    And I will multiply you exceedingly."
3   Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying,
4   "As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you,
     And you will be the father of a multitude of nations.
5   "No longer shall your name be called Abram,
    But your name shall be Abraham;
    For I have made you the father of a multitude of nations.
6   "I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make nations of you,

    and kings will come forth from you.
7   "I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their   generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you.
8   "I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."
9   God said further to Abraham, "Now as for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations.
10   "This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised.


Here is what Kenneth Copeland actually said:

 

30. Kenneth Copeland: "Once that [Abrahamic] covenant was established, God began to release His Word into the earth.  He began to paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His word in the earth." (The Power of the Tongue, 9).

 

31. Kenneth Copeland: "So before Jesus came to the earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again. How many times did He say the Messiah was coming? It was prophesied over hundreds, even thousands, of years.  He kept saying, 'He is coming. He is coming.' The circum­stances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it, but He just kept saying it. He would not be moved by what He saw. . . . God would not relent." [25]

 

REPLY: In Note 31 (above) Hanegraaff omitted: “Once that Word was received into the earth by a man, it was here to stay. In Isaiah 55:11, God said, “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

 

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Christianity in Crisis

Part 2 - Faith in Faith, Chapter 5 - The Force of Faith”

 

Copeland claims that words were also the vehicle God used to "paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His word in the earth." [26]  [Although Copeland’s The Power of the Tongue, page 4 is cited, the quote is actually found on page 9.]

 

REPLY: That’s correct. Everyone who knows about the suffering servant and messianic prophe-cies knows that God used words to prophesy details concerning the One to come (Jesus).

 

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Christianity in Crisis

Part 2 - Faith in Faith

Chapter 7 - The Faith of God

 

In Copeland's theology, even Jesus Christ was produced as a direct result of the faith of God. In unmistakable terms, he portrays God's positive confessions as a force which produced Jesus Christ.

 

REPLY: In the text we’re discussing, Copeland said nothing about positive confessions or that a force produced Jesus.  Here is what he said in this quote from Christianity in Crisis:

 

"God began to release His Word into the earth. He began to paint a picture of a Redeemer, a man who would be the manifestation of His Word in the earth."  [27]

 

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Christianity in Crisis

Part 5 - Wealth and Want

Chapter 19 - Covenant-Contract

 

Fortunately, Abraham did not fail. As agreed upon, he became the first in a long line of prophets that would act as God's mouthpiece in the earth. Copeland picks up the story by saying, "Through the mouths of His prophets, He kept sending His Word and sending His Word. Finally the great moment came when that Word was brought forth in human form... His name was Jesus." [28]

 

REPLY: I can’t confirm what is said prior to the quote because no source reference is given. I’m sure Copeland didn’t voluntarily pick up the story CinC is telling. More importantly, in the above quote Hanegraaff omitted this: “And the Word was made flesh, and welt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth (John 1:14). The Word, which existed before the foundations of the earth, lived for 33 years as a man.”

 

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NOTES

 

1. James R. Spencer. Bleeding Hearts and Propaganda: the Fall of Reason in the Church, Chapter Eleven, "Out of Context: Does Kenneth Copeland Really Believe Jesus is Not God?"

(http://www.mazeministry.com/resources/books/heartstext/chap11.htm)

 

2. Troy J. Edwards, Seven Tactics of The Heresy Hunters, “4. False Implications”

(http://www.victoryword.100megspop2.com/seven_tactics.html)

 

3. Word of Faith Sayings

Compiled by Jim Fox

(http://www.discernment.org/WOF.htm)

(http://www.gospeloutreach.net/wfquotes.html)

(http://www.discernment.org/wordfaith/WOF.htm)

(http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/FaithSay.html)

(http://www.cultureshocksolution.org/public_html/Word%20of%20Fath%20Sayings%20andHeresies%20II.txt)

 

4. Kenneth Copeland. The Power of the Tongue (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1980), pp. 8-10.

 

5. Word of Faith Sayings

Compiled by Jim Fox

 

6. Noah Webster’s 1828 Dictionary online

(http://www.christiantech.com/)

 

7. Ibid.

 

8. Merriam-Webster Online

(http://www.m-w.com/home.htm)

 

9. SANTA CLARITA BIBLE BAPTIST

(http://www.straightistheway.com/warning/copeland/kenneth_copeland.html)

 

10. SANTA CLARITA BIBLE BAPTIST

(http://www.straightistheway.com/tracts/tv_trinity.html)

Let Us Reason Ministries

(http://www.letusreason.org/popteac9.htm)

 

11. Outlandish Statements by Word-Faith Teachers

(http://newwineonline.com/html/outlandish_word-faith_statemen.html)

 

12. By Mike Oppenheimer (Let Us Reason Ministries)

(http://www.powertostand.com/Word%20Faith/jesuswordfaith.htm)

Let Us Reason Ministries

(http://www.letusreason.org/Wf24.htm)

Answers for India.com

(http://www.answersforindia.com/docs/wofjesus.htm)

 

13. Ibid.

 

14. Ibid.

 

15. Ibid.

 

16. We Care Ministries

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.mcallister3/copelandsbiblicalrevelation.htm)

Let Us Reason Ministries

(http://www.letusreason.org/Wf22.htm)

 

17. CROSS + WORD

(http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/sayings.html)

CROSS + WORD

(http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/faithsay.html)

 

18. Thoughts to Ponder

(http://www.behindthebadge.net/articles/a49.html)

 

19. THE WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT

(http://www.africanaquatics.co.za/_christian/_articles/word_of_faith.htm)

 

20. An Encyclopedia of Religious Cults by Shaun Aisbitt

(http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6528/cult.htm)

 

21. Crown Rights Book Company

(http://www.crownrights.com/books/copeland.htm)

 

22. Ibid.

 

23. Ibid.

 

24. Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, “Part 1 - Turning the Truth Into Mythology” (Harvest House Publishers: Eugene, 1993), p. 24

 

25. Ibid., p. 381.

 

26. Ibid., “Part 2 - Faith in Faith, Chapter 5 - The Force of Faith”, p. 67.

 

27. Ibid., “Part 2 - Faith in Faith, Chapter 7 - The Faith of God,” pp. 93-94.

 

28. Ibid., “Part 5 - Wealth and Want, Chapter 19 - Covenant-Contract,” p. 213.


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